Charlene sits down with Evelyn Rodstein, a former Global Managing Director of Leadership and Talent at four Fortune 100 companies including JPMorgan Chase and KPMG, and before that a licensed family and individual therapist, for a conversation that gets to the heart of what it really means to feel enough. And after decades of this work, she shared something that stopped Charlene cold. It is not the young leaders who struggle most with feeling enough. It is the women and men in their fifties who never got there.

Charlene sits down with Howie Jacobson, executive coach, author, and co-author of You Can Change Other People, for a conversation that will completely shift how you see the people around you. Howie spent most of his life being trained to analyze, categorize, and judge. He was good at it. Got the grades. Got the rewards. And then he realized it was keeping him from the places he actually wanted to go.

In this episode of Underrated to Unstoppable, Charlene sits down with Greg Williams—The Master Negotiator & Body Language Expert—for a powerful conversation about influence, communication, and the truth most leaders overlook: You’re always negotiating. Greg has spent over three decades helping leaders understand what’s really happening in every interaction—not just through words, but through tone, timing, and the subtle signals most people miss. As a Harvard-trained negotiator who has spoken in 21 countries and advised organizations around the world, Greg brings a level of insight that changes how you see every conversation. But this episode goes beyond strategy.